The Kilpadogue Connection
Trying to find the direct Langan ancestral route has proved ever so difficult but I am strongly of the opinion that the following lines could be of significant importance. A family of the Langan’s who were born in Kilpadogue towards the end of the 18th century could provide us with the all-important missing link. Could this family be that of Patrick Langan, Ballydonoghue, brother of Sean O’Longain of Glenagragra? The following can be accounted for – John, Jermiah, Maurice, Daniel, David and probably Tom. There was a sister Mary and perhaps a sister Martha in the family. Taking into account that Tom lived the greater part of his life in Knocknanure still, I believe he could have been the same as the Kilpadogue Langan’s, if not a brother certainly then a close relation. It is quite feasible that one of these men was my great, great, great grandfather.
John Langan. (1)
John Langan (1) was married to Hanora McEvoy. They lived at Kilpadogue for a time but moved to Reenturk sometime after the birth of Sarah, probably circa 1824 and had several other children; the following can be accounted for -:
Sarah………………–/–/1822.
Michael……………15/08/1824.
Martin……………. 20/11/1825.
Catherine………….04/05/1828.
John……………….03/04/1835.
Joseph……………..29/12/1837.
Margaret…………..–/–/1845.
Johanne……………–/–/1848.
Martha……………..–/–/—-
Sarah Langan. (1)
Sarah, the eldest child of John married Patrick Boland in Ballylongford on February 1844. Patrick who was from Kilrush Co. Clare was a corn merchant and used to travel to Ballylongford to buy corn. They settled in Ballylongford for a while after the marriage but moved to a farm at Farrnstack, Lisselton sometime afterwards. They farmed 70 acres there in 1824 but had increased that to 138 acres – the whole town-land by 1859. Brendan Kennelly the renowned poet from Listowel is a descendent of Sarah and Patrick. Did the said Brendan inherit the ‘duachas’ from the O’Longain’s, may I ask? No information on hand in relation to the remainder of John’s family
Jermiah Langan. (1)
Jermiah Langan (1) farmed at Kilpadogue. He was married to Mary Keane and died at Kilpadogue a widower on 17/5/1866. There is no record on hand of his wife’s death. Children on record from that union are as follows -:
Patrick…………b–/–/1822.
Ellen……………b14/05/1825.
Margaret……….b14/09/1830.
John……………b13/03/1833.
They also could have had a daughter Johanna as Patrick and Johanna Langan were sponsors at the baptism of David Keane, son of Daniel Keane and Bridget Foley, Kilpadogue on 26/05/1853. David Keane was probably a nephew of Jeremiah’s wife, Mary.
Patrick Langan. (1)
Patrick (1), who inherited the farm from his father Jeremiah, was married to Hanora Lyons and had six children as follows -: Peter…………..b09/06/1863. (Twins) Ellen…………..b09/06/1863 Mary…………..b–/–/1866. Patrick…………b13/02/1866. (Were there two sets of twins in family?) Michael……….b29/10/1868 (A Michael Langan died aged 4 in 1872). Maurice……….b11/02/1870. (A baby Maurice Langan died 1871) Patrick died at Kilpadogue, a widower on 20/02/1899, aged seventy-seven years. His wife Hanora died at Kilpadogue on 21/02/1886 aged fifty-five years. It would appear that there could have been two sets of twins in the family if the authenticity of the Census Population of 1901 can be relied upon, or subsequent Census for that matter. For example, it wasn’t unusual to give incorrect dates of birth when filling out such Census, and I know that one particular householder in a certain parish, at the request of the police officer who was carrying out the Census, supplied that officer with the relevant information on several of his neighbours. Bearing this in mind, see Census Population, 1901 & 1911 in relation to Peter Langan (1). It would appear from this Census that Peter and Ellen were born in 1867. No information on hand in relation to the remainder of Jeremiah’s family.
While on the subject of Census, people who gave their age as 50/51 in the 1901 Census were often found to be 72/73 in the 1911 survey. The old age pension was a great temptation to add on a few years. The said pension was paid out initially on Jan 1st 1909 to anyone aged seventy years. The basic rate back then was 5/- (shillings) per week. In order to qualify for the said pension some sort of ‘proof of age’ had to be submitted by each applicant. In receipt of applications, the authorities would then carry out a crosscheck of it by researching the 1841 Census of population and if that proved to be inconclusive two reliable, members of the parish would be called upon to swear an affidavit that the person or persons were of pensionable age. Applicants would also qualify for payments if they could prove that they were born before, the night of the ‘Big Wind’, January 6th 1830’.
Patrick Langan. (2)
Patrick Langan (2) b Feb 13th, 1866 at Kilpadogue son of Patrick (1) would appear to be the twin brother of Mary Langan.
Patrick Langan. (3)
Patrick Langan (3) of Reenturk was married to Hanna Dinneen. One daughter on record, Dorris born 18/11/1859. Patrick (3) was probably a 1st cousin to Patrick (1)
Joseph Langan.
A Joseph Langan of Reenturk married Johanna Murphy and had a daughter Hanora born 28/12/1859. There could be other children.
Peter Langan. (1)
Peter Langan (1), son of Patrick (1) lived at Kilpadogue. On Jan 8th, 1898 at Tarbert church Peter Langan married Anne Goulding from Carhoona daughter of John Goulding and Ann Hynes. The witnesses being Edmond McNamara and Katie Moloney. John Goulding was the son of Hugh Goulding, Carhoona and Anne Hynes was the daughter of Michael Hynes, Lisreidy, Ballyhahill, Co. Limerick. They were married on Feb 17th 1874 at Glin church, the witnesses were Hugh Goulding and Michael Hynes. Anne’s age given as 21 years and John’s age given as 28 years. Children from Peter Langan and Anne Goulding as follows -:
Nora………………..b21/06/1899.
Patrick………….b10/07/1901.
John…………….b07/05/1904.
Mary……………b19/06/1905.
Eileen………………b20/04/1907.
Anne…………….b29/07/1908.
Jerry……………b17/10/1909.
Maurice (Mossie)…………b28/01/1911.
Peter……………b14/07/1912.
Margaret……….b15/01/1914.
Elizabeth………..b ? (the youngest)
Nora married a Con Sullivan in America and had one son John. Nora died in 1994.
Patrick married Mary Cahill from Co. Clare and had six children – Peter Joseph, Diarmuid, Patrick (Paudie), Cyril, Anne & Leo.
John married Rita Buckley from Moyvane and had seven children – Peter, Larry, Maurice, Roseanne, Mary, Norma & Joseph.
Mary married John Sullivan and had at least four children -: Jimmy, Fr. Con, Ann and Eileen.
Eileen married John Mahony in America and had four children.
Anne went to the U.S. She was married twice one of her husband’s names was Gough. No family from either husband.
Jerry married in England to Bridget Shaughnessey, sister to John Shaughnessy, Public House, Glin. They had four children. Joseph, Francis, Anne & Carmel. Joseph died as a young child during the 2nd World War. He was sent from England to the family home in Kilpadogue for safety. Tragically he fell into the old black pot of boiling water in the kitchen and died as a result a couple of days later.
Maurice (Mossie) joined the Royal Navy and lost his life June 8th 1940 in World War 2 during the sinking of the aircraft carrier, H.M.S. Glorious.
Peter, the youngest son who on May 27th 1937 married Ellen ‘Bon’ Wallace of Tarbert Island daughter of Patrick Wallace and had six children – Eileen, Thomas, Joseph, Alex, Mary & Nora. Margaret married John Hill in London. He was a Welshman from Mountain Ash – one son Kevin who now resides in Listowel. Elizabeth married John O’Connor of Ballylongford and had five children – Kathleen, Donal, Anthony, Ted & Anne. The 1901 Census for Peter Langan (1) of Kilpadogue reads as follows -:
Census Kilpadogue 1901.
Peter…Aged 34.
Anne…Aged 21, (Peter’s wife.)
Also Present…Ellen..Aged 34. (Peter’s sister, single)
Mary..Aged 35. (Peter’s sister, single)
Question -: (1) Is Peter and Ellen’s age incorrect on the Census forum? (See Patrick Langan (1)
(2) Mary who was present during the Census would have been the same age as her brother Patrick. This would indicate that they could have been twins or if not, a very quick conception had taken place that same year. (See also Patrick Langan (1))
Census Kilpadogue 1911.
Peter…………………..Aged 46.
Anne…………………..Aged 34. (Wife)
Children.
Nora………………………Aged 12.
Paddy………………..Aged 10.
John……………………Aged 7.
Mary…………………..Aged 6.
Eileen………………….Aged 4.
Anne…………………..Aged 3.
Jerry……………………Aged 1.
Maurice………………..Aged 2 months.
In total, Peter Langan (1) had 38 grandchildren. All the Langan’s resident in and around the Tarbert area today are his grandchildren and great grandchildren.
Peter Langan. (2)
The Tarbert Connection
Peter Langan (2), born 1912, son of Peter (1) lived on Tarbert Island. He died July 3rd 1998.
Langan Joe.
Tarbert.
Langan Joe is the son of Peter Langan (2) above. According to the said Joe, himself and my father, Ned Langan were 4th cousins. His father Peter (2) and my grandfather Paddy Langan were 3rd cousins. Peter Langan (1) and my great grandfather, Tom Langan were 2nd cousins. Patrick Langan (1) and my great great grandfather Maurice Langan were 1st cousins. In that case, either Jermiam Langan (1) or one of his brothers, more than likely Tom Langan, was Maurice Langan’s father. It is also worthy to note that the aforementioned Paddy Langan, my grandfather ran a public house in Tarbert in the early 1900’s. What was Paddy doing back around there? There must have been some connection along the way.
Maurice Langan. (1)
Maurice, born circa 1779 died at Kilpadogue on 13/1/1854 aged seventy-five years. He was a bachelor. He was known locally as Maurice ‘Steele’ Langan, which would indicate that there was some connection between this family and that of Sean O’Longain of Glenagragra. (see Captain Steele heretofore)
Daniel Langan. (1)
There seems to be no record available on the death of Daniel Langan (1). Registration may not have taken place. However, it seems that he was alive at the death of his wife Mary when she died on 08/12/1864 at Tarbert, aged seventy-four years.
Daniel Langan. (2)
(Son of Daniel (1)
There is a record of a marriage between a Daniel Langan and Bridgette Holly in the year 1833.
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